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Will some 49ers be headed to the Redskins?

Jan 10, 2015, 9:41 AM EDT

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With new general manager Scot McCloughan now in place, will the Redskins transform into San Francisco East? McCloughan picked a lot of the players who are currently on the 49ers roster when he was VP of player personnel and then GM of the organization from 2005-2008. With some of those players likely to be available as free agents this March, will McCloughan try to bring some of them to his new team?

My colleague Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com speculates that he might. The players he thinks could come to DC are running back Frank Gore, tight end Vernon Davis, and linebacker Ahmad Brooks.

Gore is slated to be a free agent and Davis and Brooks could become cap casualties. If you connect the dots, you could make a case for any or all of them winding up with the Redskins.

But even if the Redskins were still in their days of spending heavily on free agents, the chances of any of those three winding up with the Redskins would be slim. The presence of McCloughan makes the chances virtually nil.

The Redskins already have a top running back in Alfred Morris, who has three 1,000-yard seasons in three years in the NFL. Gore will be 32 before training camp starts and he will command a fairly hefty salary. He’s still an excellent back, and could be productive for the Redskins if they go to a power-running scheme. But the age, mileage (2,784 regular season touches), and presence of Morris make Gore joining the Redskins unlikely.

The Redskins also are in pretty good shape at tight end with Jordan Reed. Although he does have some issues with injuries, Davis, who turns 31 in a few weeks, missed two games and was limited in others with ankle and back injuries. And despite the fact that he played in three fewer games, Reed had almost twice as many catches as Davis (50 to 26). If the Redskins want a backup, they are likely to turn to the draft or a younger free agent. Davis strong local connections (born in DC, Dunbar High School, University of Maryland) are unlikely to sway McCloughan.

Brooks also has local connections (born in Fairfax, University of Virginia) but he will be 31 in March. He plays a position where the Redskins have Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Murphy already and they could well look to add more in the draft. Last season Brooks created some controversy when he reportedly removed himself from a game against the Giants. That alone will not necessarily keep the Redskins from signing him but the age and declining production (six sacks in 13 starts) probably will.

Before we start connecting dots between any other players and the Redskins, here’s what McCloughan had to say about free agency during his news conference on Friday:

“You start dabbling too much into free agency sometimes you get older guys, you get some medical history . . . We won’t have to go out to other organizations and get 32, 33 year olds who have different plans.”

To be sure, the philosophy here is to watch what they do and not what they say. Words in January can be forgotten when holes in the roster must be filled in March. But McCloughan has shied away from free agency in his previous stops, at least until he had a chance to build a base of talent through the draft. For right now there isn’t much of a point in linking many free agents to the Redskins, especially not players who are in their thirties with some injury baggage.

  1. wonderfulfaison - Jan 10, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    I am glad the new GM is not looking for players on the wrong side of 30 to help build this team. What I do believe is that we will make an attempt to sign G Lupati and MAY make an attempt to sign C Steele of the Miami Dolphins – both are on the right side of 30 and both would start. Other than that, I would not be surprised to see him leave FA alone.

    • Joe Greene - Jan 10, 2015 at 3:05 PM

      Money spent on a C, especially one as bad as Satele (not Steele), would be wasted. LT and C are good enough going into next year. RT would be okay if Compton comes back but can be upgraded. Both OG spots must be fixed and Iupati (not Lupati) would be a good addition.

      • deepball1 - Jan 15, 2015 at 4:32 PM

        Spencer is a solid prospect for replacing Chester. Spencer was still coming back from injury last year at this time so now that he is fully healed the Skins should have a starter or a solid backup. I look for them to add a guard or right tackle in the 2nd round….no more of these 6th and 7th round linemen. Those rounds should be for projects and special teams players.

  2. skinsgame - Jan 10, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    If anything, Chris Culliver would be a welcome addition at CB and Iupati at LG.

  3. Richie - Jan 10, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Davis would be a good signing! Be great to run a double TE set in red zone. Davis is decent blocker.

  4. brucealmty - Jan 10, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Now that Scot is in the house, props to Dan and Bruce. Scot has had his intro presser, and personally I hope he disengages from future press conferences. Jay should be the face of the team, and he shows up only 4~5 times a year with Snyder, Allen, and Gruden in tow.

    • rayvil01 - Jan 10, 2015 at 11:44 AM

      It was pretty obvious during that presser how much of a gulf there was in public speaking ability between Scot and Bruce When they asked Bruce a question it was like he was stuck in mud up to his waist. He has no skill for it. It’s apparent why he avoided media opportunities. He’s just cannon fodder.

      I don’t really care how often Scot talks during the season. Rizzo has an interview every week during season, and manages to say exactly nothing. But, he does it well. Scot will talk more than Bruce did, as that’s hard to not do. But, I expect him to follow the Rizzo model of speaking without saying anything. This isn’t any rookie. He knows the game.

  5. goback2rfk - Jan 10, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    There is really nothing to talk about until March 10th when free agency starts. Thats how it is in January as a Redskins fan, cause we know we do not play football in January.

    • bowlregard - Jan 10, 2015 at 1:45 PM

      But we can’t help ourselves.

  6. peterhobbs1 - Jan 10, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    So the story starts out telling us that there are 3 who will likely end up in Washington, then goes on to explain why they won’t appear in Washington. Is someone just looking to write an article?

    • Rich Tandler - Jan 10, 2015 at 4:26 PM

      No, the post starts out discussing three that a 49ers beat writer said might come to Washington (and others have speculated as well) and then me explaining why I don’t think it will happen.

      And yes, it was me looking to write an article, which is what I do here. There’s not breaking news every day so sometimes I post something that will start a discussion. Obviously this one did.

  7. jermz - Jan 10, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    There is absolutely no way McCloughan is going through the free agent market, not after that press conference where he essentially denounced free agency and band aid solutions. Like he said, patience IS key. Draft O-linemen in their 20’s so we can have some NEW Hogs in place.

  8. mr.moneylover - Jan 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    Sad to hear that wade Phillips not the front runner nomore I herd there was interaction involving jay gruden raheem morris and wade Phillips the day before scot press conference and I seen jay gruden with a band aid on his face at scot press conference…the search goes on tho question still out there who will be redskins next DC

    • Joe Greene - Jan 10, 2015 at 3:06 PM

      Could someone translate this into English?

      • mr.moneylover - Jan 10, 2015 at 4:22 PM

        Joe you must dont like nobody post u wake up everyday to see who you gonna hate on or say something negative too…get a life bro realtalk

        • Joe Greene - Jan 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM

          “you must don’t”

          That pretty much sums everything up right there.

      • dellio01 - Jan 10, 2015 at 6:16 PM

        Joe, please get over yourself. I have read several posts where you have critiqued someones grammar or spelling. Even correcting players names. Come on man, obviously a great scholar such as yourself can certainly rise above the petty errors. Just sayin’ dude!

    • dellio01 - Jan 10, 2015 at 6:18 PM

      Money……..where did you hear this? Not saying it isn’t fact, I just can’t find any info on this.

      • Joe Greene - Jan 12, 2015 at 5:20 PM

        It’s complete BS made up by an illiterate twit who thinks getting info from a talk radio hack counts as inside info.

        • lescrappeur - Jan 13, 2015 at 4:34 PM

          “Illiterate twit.” Wow. Nice attitude. Regardless of what the guy was positing or where he got it, that’s just plain ugly. I’m embarrassed for you. (And no, I don’t care if you don’t care what I think.)

  9. pookiebear - Jan 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM

    This guy has a great eye for for defensive talent our defense will be big and elite with in 4 years but you will see a difference this year. Little help on the the o line qb make a tiny bit of progress they will be fun to watch next year. They won’t make the playoffs but at least we won’t be completely embarrassed

  10. koach steve - Jan 10, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    That would be nice but the skins really need an offensive line

  11. goback2rfk - Jan 10, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    We dont want none of those washed up 49ers players

  12. nomaan78 - Jan 10, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    I would only want Mike Iupati from the 49ers.

    Other Free on my wishlist include

    Devin McCourty FS NE
    Justin Houston OLB KC
    Shareece Wright CB SD

    Done with FA

    Thats it Then look forward to the draft

    • Joe Greene - Jan 10, 2015 at 10:30 PM

      Wright is pathetic at CB. Why in the world would you want him on our roster?

  13. shermanp79 - Jan 10, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    If we brought in any of them, I would bring Brooks. I would do it for 2 years. I don’t think Murphy is ready to be a starter. He needs to get stronger and more physical. I think he is better suited for the weak side right now.

    I know everyone likes Morris but we need a starting back with more speed and one who can catch the ball. We are too easily defensed and defenses know Morris is a minimal threat to catch the ball. He also isn’t as good of a fit in Gruden’s system. No one can disagree this team is much better with a Murray or Bell in the backfield. A guy who can take it the distance, give us a break from those long drives. I like Morris but he is not an elite back. Getting a 1000 yards is not all that tough for a starting back. He did it this year and how many sub 100 yard games did he have? He has also put the ball on the ground the last couple of years. Thankfully he recovered most but that will catch up to him. His production has declined each year. The less threat RG3 was to run, the less he produced. This past year he missed a lot of holes. I believe he is replaced after next year. Not only for reasons I listed but his contract is up and there is no reason to pay him big money beyond. I have said this since last offseason and people disagree but it will prove itself out.

    In regards to Reed, he gets hurt too much. He dances around running his routes and can’t block at all. He in no way fits the mold of a TE. The blocking by the TE and Rb has to improve, it was a major part of the problem. I don’t know that Davis is the way to go. He isn’t the player he was a few years ago.

    I think youth in FA would be the way to go. We need to get up the hill, not over it. We aren’t looking for guys to help us win a SB next year. If someone is needed while a young player grows, I would be very limited with signing those type of guys. I think a lot will depend on what Scot’s impression is with the talent on this team. Can those guys on defense improve with different coaching. Our focus has to be hitting on players in the Draft.

    • Joe Greene - Jan 11, 2015 at 4:03 AM

      Morris is fast enough. His dropoff this year was mostly due to not getting enough carries because our coach abandons the run at the first sign of getting behind the other team.

      Get a 3rd down back who can catch, or just keep the one we have. It’s a pointless move to change the RB spot right now with Morris on the last year of his uber cheap rookie deal.

      Bell runs a 4.6.

      • lescrappeur - Jan 13, 2015 at 4:37 PM

        By the way, you don’t use a comma between independent clauses when using a conjunction such as “or.” Also, the word über has an umlaut. As you’re clearly concerned about literacy, I thought you might like to know.

      • shermanp79 - Jan 29, 2015 at 6:44 PM

        He may run a 4.6 but at 225lbs, with great hands and agility. I am thinking about wanting an all around guy. He can give you big plays. I think he plays faster than his 40 time. I believe Morris ran a 4.7 at 210 , he has to be one of the slower starting backs I think he has had like 2-3 40 yard plays in his career. We need more than that in our backfield. As I said, I like him but I believe Gruden replaces him with a guy who gives more big plays. A guy who can catch. Morris doesn’t catch with ease or rhythm. The thing that will certainly kill him, the fumbling. He had issues in College but not in Pros until the 2nd half of 2013 and this year. He had several games in a row. Even though he recovered them, it will eventually catch up and hurt him..

  14. polofourme - Jan 12, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    Lets all hope not. That would be totally contrary to what SM has said and demonstrated thru his career, you rebuild a team thru the draft and only when you have the team on the brink do you add a few key FAs to get over the hill. He better NOT drift away from that strategy that he has used all his professional life and created teams that are, IN THE LONG run contenders year in and year out. Fans had just better be prepared for the long haul. The real problems in building a great team are two fold, one when you draft, your picks absolutely have to pay off and secondly, timing is everything. I have posted numerous times, its hard, almost impossible to build a team to a championship level and keep that team together long enough to succeed. Injury, FA, suspensions, the whole gamut of events that can intervene. Building a winning tradition is the third and probably the most difficult to achieve let alone maintain. Its great decision making, sticking to a plan and a ton of good luck. Its not easy to rebuild a roster and avoid making any mistakes in personnel. However, teams like NE, GB and SEAT, seem to be able to compete at a high level and maintain a strong core of impact players but it takes enormous luck…like drafting a QB with a fifth round choice that turns out to be Tom Brady. Who knows what would have happened to Brady’s career had Drew Bledsoe not been injured. So, SM has his hands full but he needs the time and the patience of the owner and the fans to even have a shot at accomplishing this rebuild.

    And one other point, I strongly disagree with the idea that in the draft you take the best player available regardless of need. That is apparently SMs view and I would hope that is NOT how he will go about drafting for WAS. We need to focus like a laser on the OL, the secondary both CB and S positions this time around. If we ignore those areas, this team will not be even heading in the right direction. I am not running the draft for WAS, but If I could whisper in SMs ear, I would yell at the top of my voice. OL, OL, OL!….Put down the vodka bottle and draft for the OL, I mean, G, G, C, RT in no particular order. And if you can, drop back in the draft and get another 1st or 2nd round pick. That would be consistent with using the draft to rebuild the roster.

    • Rich Tandler - Jan 12, 2015 at 1:50 PM

      Folks, can we grow up here and not make a joke of McCloughan’s past issues? Not funny in the least.

      Drafting for need is dumb drafting. The smart organizations take the long view and build the team drafting the best players available.

  15. rcjur - Jan 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    In FA I like some of the ideas and I would certainly bring over LB Brooks from SF along with CB Culliver. As GM that would be my steals from SF. Then nab Safety McCourty NE to be the starting FS for the team. McCourty with Duke would be great Safties for next season with Thomas as backup FS and I would consider Merriweather on one-year deal back up Duke at SS. However a Safety will need to be drafted in the draft and hopefully a good UFA Safety player can come in and do well to nab the last spot at Safety. To me that is a good plan and as for the oline, build it thru the draft only and rid Polumbus, Chester and Lebieus.

    • Rich Tandler - Jan 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM

      Man, you’re just rolling along old school Redskins style, aren’t you? I could be wrong, but I don’t see it.

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