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Need to Know: Will Cousins get a chance to compete for the Redskins QB job?

Dec 30, 2014, 6:12 AM EDT

Cousins-vs-SEA

Here is what you need to know on this Tuesday, December 30, 121 days before the first round of the 2015 NFL draft.

Three and out—Cousins’ future in Washington

1. Yesterday was another lesson in how “news” can get bent out of shape. What started out as a small group of reporters chatting with Kirk Cousins about where how he thought 2015 would go morphed into Internet headlines that he “demanded” a trade. I was there, he never did any such thing. He did say that it would be a difficult situation for him to deal with if he didn’t have a chance to compete with Robert Griffin III. But the word “trade” or anything like it never came out of his mouth. Be careful about basing anything on tweets and headlines.

2. The Redskins PR staff got Cousins on a conference call with reporters and he said that he was happy in Washington, that he hadn’t demanded anything, and that he’ll deal with whatever comes his way. Stories with what Cousins said were posted. Still, several hours later, a Google search for Cousins showed dozens of links to the inaccurate stories and scant mention of posts on what actually happened. Winston Churchill had the perfect quote for the situation: “A lie get halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.”

3. The question wasn’t in reference to this particular incident but Jay Gruden did say, ““I didn’t expect it quite to be this crazy,” when asked about the media scrutiny the Redskins get. Although I am well familiar with how much attention the team gets, I have to say I was surprised by how fast the Cousins “story” spread. The guy ended the year as, essentially, the third-string quarterback on a 4-12 team, a former fourth-round pick and every site you can think of from NFL.com to PFT to Deadspin has headlines on Cousins’ “demand”. Seriously?

Out: This little incident aside, it will be interesting to see how the next year unfolds for Cousins. You could make a case that he should get a shot at being the starting quarterback. He does have some issues to iron out but so do Griffin and McCoy (who is not under contract for next year). I’ll break down some numbers over the next few weeks but it seems that the Redskins moved the ball more consistently with Cousins taking the snaps then he did when either of the other two were behind center.

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Days until: 2015 NFL Draft 121; 2015 NFL season opening Sunday 257

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  1. skinsgame - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    There should be no position on a team that finishes 4-12 that isn’t wide open for competition. It should go without saying that competing for your spot on a depth chart is necessary.

  2. mr.moneylover - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:04 AM

    I think he will get a chance to compete but I know jay gruden wont feel comfortable with him as the starter as well cause his decision making…he couldve took the job and raned with it but he didnt he put the redskins in a deep whole to claim out of … but jay gruden said there will be more competition at other postions as well and thats how you build a great team instead of giving players the job all because they a vet…I really like DE frank kease hes a undrated blessing to this team he should’ve played more this year…I think redskins gonna get DE Leonard williams from USC if hes there with the 5 pick…hes a straight up beast who can get to the QB

  3. gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    Rich, i think the NFL needs to put a stop to these types of reports. I know it’s tough but also very simple to stop IMO, all they would need to do is to say if any of your reporters fabricate stories with our teams – players your organization will no longer have access to our product (NFL) . So i ask you is this something the NFL could put in place? What are their rights as far as this goes?

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 30, 2014 at 9:42 AM

      So the NFL is going to tell, say, ESPN that they don’t have access to the players? Not a chance.

      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. It’s up to the fans as consumers of news to look beyond the headline and/or tweet and see what the story was. If I looked yesterday and didn’t see a quote of Cousins demanding a trade I would immediately have been suspicious.

      > > >

      • hk2000 - Dec 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM

        Not the NFL, the Redskins should consider sanctions against a media outlet whose reporter twisted the words of players or coaches in a way to make his or her report more controversial or interesting or to just start something because they have an agenda of their own- which happens every week in Washington media reports covering the Redskins. Also, when did a reporter EVER suffer any consequences for fabricating “Anonymous Sources” crap that we see everyday around the redskins from their own insiders? The answer is never. If the Redskins are interested in changing the culture about the team, they need to put a stop to all this kind of reporting by demanding a reporter give the name of any anonymous source they reference, otherwise they would not be allowed in the team facilities. That may sound extreme, but It’s the only way to stop the drama that seem to never end around this team- and that should include all reporters even their own official radio station’s Redskins’ insider.

      • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

        Rich if ESPN reports lies about a player or the team then the players or team should deny access to them, this would put a stop to it i’m sure.

      • kenlinkins - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM

        Rich: What are the rules in the NFL about players and the press? Can a player demand a reporter to leave a press conference before speaking or refuse a interview. Trying to find real news must be a very hard job and in most cases only happens when someone is caught off guard or is too mad to stop himself. How do you feel about players who use media to get their message on the news without allowing their name to be used?

        • Rich Tandler - Dec 31, 2014 at 6:04 AM

          No, a player can’t demand that a reporter leave a press conference. He can clam up and not really answer questions and/or confront the reporter in question but if the reporter has a credential he has a right to be in the group. If players want to give anonymous information, that’s up to them. As I’ve said before, it’s up to the consumers of the report to decide how much credibility to give reports that originate from anonymous sources, whether it’s players, coaches, or front office.

  4. mr.moneylover - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:44 AM

    What dumb reporter ask that stupid question on if jay gruden will recommend jim hasslet to return…what u think jay gruden gonna say I dont want jim hasslet back especially after the way things got twisted in the media this year..jay gruden gonna say the smart things to the media plus jim hasslet and jay gruden are friends so I wouldnt buy into what jay said about keeping jim hasslet until all the coaches are taken but I definitely do believe him alot of changes coming from a player stand point he did point out that some or half of the guys in the locker room are NOT his kind of players he learned what kind of guys he got on the roster witch he suppose to do as a rookie head coach but he did say he like the core group of guys and I do to you think of keenan Robinson desean jackson,p.garcon, trent Williams,alfred morris ,silas redd , breeland , frank kease and I still think akeem davis is solid even tho they didnt give him a shot to play saftey cause of ryan clark and plus hes good on special teams witch jay gruden like

  5. gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 9:06 AM

    KC should by all means have his chance to become the starter next season. MS should have had QB competition
    year one just as he did with every other position. when you create competition it just makes your players that much better and also makes the players work that much harder. IMO if this had happen year one, we might not be reading things like “not putting in time in film room”. This type of behavior with a single player spreads like cancer throughout the locker room which leads to 3-5 win seasons. Jay has to be consistent with every player in this organization and i truly think he has!

  6. colmac69 - Dec 30, 2014 at 9:06 AM

    Not surprised that comments that come from redskins gets twisted into a story that isnt there

    As for cousins I have posted here on numerous occasions that imo he is best qb to lead this offense…..just by watching you can see offense moving better and it looks like full playbook is getting used…..also if u read between the lines (maybe rich could help here) I think players believe in cousins and have more faith with him rather than mccoy or rgiii….also believe coach thinks same…..

    As for his record if you look at first yr he bt cleveland, could have bt atlanta(they went for two pointer to win game),should bt dallas (gave up 4th and ten in last 30 secs) giants game was played in downpour and nobody was trying (1-3 could/should bn at least 3-1)…..

    This yr he played well in philadelphia (would got win there but for special teams)….giants game he had horrible second half….played decent vs seattle in a game they were xpected to lose….gave them a chance vs arizona until poor 4th qtr…….didnt play well vs tennessee and was quite rightly benched at ht……so in games he started he could quite easily b 4-5,,, 5-4 with little more luck/help

    Does he have issues? Without doubt as he showed in giants..arizona and titans games with one mistake leading to another and another and his play snowballed downhill…..with titans his body language wasnt gd after second int and got benched because coach didnt like how he responded…..
    You also have to ask why he remained no 3 when rgiii came back and played poorly…coach turned to mccoy instead…..was that decision taken above coach head or did he see things with cousins that suggested he didnt think cousins could perform adequately?

    I think if cousins gets fair opportunity in off season to compete for starting job (if he still there) he can b guy like tannehill from miami (he threw quite few ints and had some rough patches his first two yrs) but this yr he performed at a level which miami xpected him to b at by having fine season…..

    One thing for sure its never dull around the redskins

  7. polofourme - Dec 30, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    There should have been open competition at EVERY position including the QB position. It was a huge mistake to simply give the team over to an unproven rookie QB who had never played in a pro set. It gave Griffin a false sense of entitlement which he nor any player should have. And we are now reaping the rewards of that hasty and unwise decision. Now some will argue we had to play Griffin because of everything we gave away to get him. The QBs today who are drafted very early have to be thrown into the game. That maybe true for a QB like Luck who entered the NFL as close to being NFL ready as any player in history. It is not true for a QB like Griffin who barely operated from a playbook in college, whose game rested solely on his speed. Speed in college, is not necessarily speed in the NFL as Griffin found out. But as much as I blame Griffin, I blame a system, a HC who said he would never change his O scheme to fit any one player and then betrayed that vow and a media that in the NFL loves to build a player up so they can bring him down. Having said, yes by all means, there should be open competition at the QB position next season. That feeling of being entitled has to be buried once and for all. But IMO we do not have our starting QB on the roster. Its not Griffin, or Cousins or McCoy. Neither of which IMO are what I would call even marginally capable NFL quality QBs…so we need to search in FA and in the later rounds for two new QBs who will be every chance to start for WAS. We need to find even just an average NFL caliber QB who has experience working from a pocket and can run Grudens entire playbook..we need a developmental QB and we need a back up QB…that role Griffin will earn in TC and because Snyder will insist that he make the squad. IMO Cousins deserves a fresh start on new team. I have seen it work miracle’s where a player can reclaim his pose and be successful…WAS owes that to Cousins and both would be better off…as for McCoy, I love his heart, but he is not the answer to run Gruden Os..and I don’t see a place for him on the team….so find a veteran QB in FA and find a development QB in the draft. That’s how we should go forward. But it wont happen…I am just day dreaming.

    • mr.moneylover - Dec 30, 2014 at 11:06 AM

      I think they will use a late round pick on a QB…but first is d-line and O-line…if redskins want to really upgrade that o-line and d-line this is the draft to do it

      • polofourme - Dec 30, 2014 at 12:28 PM

        As I have posted numerous times, we need to take a page out of DALs playbook…OL, OL, OL with our first three picks..I would trade our 1st round pick down and get two late 1sts or two early 2nds and draft for the OL..look for a S in FA. We have so many problems on this roster, it simply can not be fixed in one or even three years…that’s how far out we are…I would be opposed to taking the best player available theory..you have to have a plan, and stick with it…I would look for a G, G, and then RT tackle. The rest could spent on upgrading ST or projects with a 5th rounder spent on a developmental QB. Its not going to be pretty for a few years no matter what we do..but we have to exercise discipline and stay to plan.

        We also need to hire a real GM since right now as it stands, Allen will be making all those decisions and that would be a huge mistake..HUGE. If we don’t get rid of Allen nothing we do in the draft will make any difference since Allen will do what Snyder tells him to do and besides that, Allen has a horrible record as a talent evaluator…this is when I wish we had kept Morocco Brown who left the team when he was passed over as GM..he went to CLE and he will be a GM sooner rather than later for some NFL team…he was that good. And we let him go or rather forced him out the door.

    • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 11:59 AM

      Why are you “blaming” Griffin for this? He had training camp, worked for the job, and was named the starter by his own coach. What do you want him to do? Bench himself? Would any player do that?

      Analyzing QB performing is a tricky task in of itself. Can we do so without the armchair psychoanalysis?

      • polofourme - Dec 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM

        That is not correct…Gruden stated there were problems from the get go with Griffin during OTAs, TC and obviously in preseason…it was a GIVEN whether Gruden agreed with that decision or not, Griffin was the starting QB by default. Gruden stated numerous times, he was skeptical that Griffin was the best choice to start the season. He was in fact practically ordered to start Griffin even when Griffin was terrible during the preseason…what you heard from Griffin was, “not to worry, we will get these things worked out and be ready to go in the regular season and that NEVER happened eventually leading to him being benched. You are just wrong about your views…it was not Grudens called whether Griffin started or not…and he had to butt heads with ?Allen and Snyder to get him benched after his awful performance against TB. Gruden basically has been saying since he arrived, anyone but Griffin.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM

          Doesn’t matter who “forced” Griffin to start. I say that Gruden “forced” him to start, but if you feel differently, then oh well.

          The issue is over Griffin wanting to start in the first place, as if wanting to start is is now some kind of “entitlement”. He’s an athlete (and, not only that, a #2 pick and former RoY). Of course he wants to start. And it doesn’t natter if he’s Joe Montana or some practice-squad QB. It’s why I don’t blame Kirk Cousins even if he DID say that he wants a trade. These players want to play, not sit on the bench.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 31, 2014 at 5:27 PM

          It absolutely does matter that the owner is forcing players on the coaches.

    • brucefan1 - Dec 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM

      Haha!

      Yeah – starting Griffin (the second player taken in the 2012 draft) year one was such a HUGE mistake that he went on to have one of the best rookie seasons EVER for a QB, won Rookie of the Year – over the FIRST pick in that draft…

      (Oh yeah…that reminds me…do you post to Colts’ sites saying that LUCK should be in an open QB competition every camp, or is that a special standard you reserve for your whipping-boy Griffin? Just wondering!)

      …and led the Skins to their first divisional title in years (oh…oh..yeah…2012 was just an ABERRATION to you! How convenient. LOL!) Shoulda started Rex Grossman, huh? Hehe.

      But then those realities do not prop up your shaky agenda, so they’re best left ignored and/or swept under the rug, right?! Haha!

      Keep posting, polo…you never cease to amuse me!

      (And I apologize for stealing your ellipses! Sometimes they DO come in handy – but only if used in MODERATION. Hehe)

      • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM

        Gimmick offense with 3 injuries during the season in year 1. That’s all he could do. Now he’s a bad QB and getting worse.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:30 PM

          That “gimmick” offense is still being used with regularity around the league. Read some Bill Barnwell articles.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM

          Nobody runs it as their primary offense. Bob and Daddy Doo Doo cried to the owner to stop running it after 3 injuries in 1 year. In a legit pro-style approach, Bob has no clue and is getting worse over time. He’s been reduced to a guy who throws 5 yard check downs, WR screens, and the occasional lob downfield.

      • polofourme - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:33 PM

        Yes all smoke and mirror and we found out it was NOT sustainable…three injuries in one year is what that got WAS. Sr did what he said he would NEVER do that is change is O scheme to fit any player. In the long run, he was dead right about that but again, it was NOT Sr call…Snyder intervened and told Sr to play him…and that was that. Sr knew Griffin could not run a pro set…he knew he had to play Griffin who in college basically played without a play book…it was a disaster waiting to happen And that season was about the worst thing that could have happened to Griffin, it gave him a false sense of what he needed to do to become an NFL QB…we won most of those games not by dominating the teams we played but with a lot of good luck. Most of those games were decided by less than 7 points…the whole idea that Griffin could play like was pure bunk. So the fact is wht happened to WAS is that they began to read and worse believe their own press clippings and when reality hit home in 2013, the team completely fell apart and Griffin was benched for is extraordinary poor play and now Griffin is run down from behind by DL I guessed you missed the last two years..in the NFL its not what you did in the past that matters, its what have you done for me lately…and lately, in Griffins last 24 games he is 5 wins and 19 loss’s and headed south in his career. But I guess you missed that also..you must be caught in some Ground Hog Day event where you wake up everyday and we have just drafted Griffin.

      • polofourme - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM

        I finally figured out who you really are…you should a lot like Bruce Allen trying to pass the blame to anyone but himself….Bruce, did they take away your lemon aide stand outside TC in Richmond and now wont all you to bring coffee and donuts to the team meetings…poor Bruce, you are left to come in here to cover your backside…naughty naughty Bruce…I think I hear your master calling…here boy, here boy..its Snyder calling you!

      • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

        Joe, the read-option is actually being used MORE by teams than before, not less. Like I said, read some Barnwell articles. Here’s one to get you started. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/week-14-nfl-49ers-raiders-browns-chiefs-colts-cardinals/ A “gimmick” offense by its nature would be phased (or almost phased) out of playbooks, like the wildcat. The read-option/pistol offense is still a significant part of teams’ playbooks — and that’s a fact that the numbers show, not an opinion.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 31, 2014 at 12:06 AM

          Individual teams, not total usage, is what I’m talking about. It was a massive part of the Skins offense, far more than any other individual team does.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 9:24 AM

          Joe, the usage HAS increased. Read the article.

          By the way, the Redskins used the read-option on 22% of their run plays in 2012. While significant, it wasn’t the brunt of their offense.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 10:16 AM

          And, in anticipation of a valid rebuttal that the 23% number only accounts for the percentage run plays and not the total offense, let’s break down the numbers:

          118 read-option runs
          519 total run plays
          475 total pass plays

          (118/(519+475)) × 100 = 12%

          So, the read-option run accounted for 12% of the Redskins’ entire offense.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 31, 2014 at 5:29 PM

          The usage ACROSS ALL TEAMS has increased.

          You cannot be so stupid to confuse that with individual teams running it as their primary offense the way the Skins did in 2012. It’s a wrinkle that teams have found useful. It’s also the only thing Bob could do at an NFL level.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 5:41 PM

          Joe, I just showed how much of the Redskins’ offense used the read-option run in 2013. Read. 12%. As in a little over one out of every TEN plays. As in it was NOT their “primary” offense. You are wrong. Period.

          If you still fail to grasp this simple, basic point; then that is not my problem.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 5:51 PM

          *2012

      • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:01 PM

        Wrong article. Here you go:http://grantland.com/the-triangle/week-12-wrap-up-together-we-appreciate-football/

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

          IMO this is irrelevant because Bob has proved he can’t continue this type of play in this league.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 10:30 PM

          If you’re referring to injury issues, then I understand your point. He did play most of 2013 though, and his ankle injury in 2014 didn’t take place during a read-option play.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 31, 2014 at 12:07 AM

          1 run here, 3 runs there, blah, blah, blah. The Skins ran it constantly. Teams like them, and the 49ers, are using it far less, while other teams have added it as a wrinkle in their offense.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 9:27 AM

          If you think 22% qualifies as “constant” use of the read-option, then you need to rethink your opinion.

          The data is there, Joe. You had no problem using numbers to back up your argument about Cousins, so I wonder why you don’t bother to look at the data for the read-option.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 9:58 AM

          Rounded the number (for 2012) too low. It’s 23%.

  8. goback2rfk - Dec 30, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    Do not fall for the stupid reports. Kirk Cousins is in no way going to have a competition for the starting job. He is a backup, already proved that, and has lost the job to RG3… Robert will be starting next year no matter what, and folks that’s a guarantee. Think about it, they are not keeping RG3 around to be a 2nd string QB.
    Rg3 won the job for the foreseeable future

    • mr.moneylover - Dec 30, 2014 at 11:14 AM

      Agree, but it depends on rg3 and how he approach and prepare in the off-season ..will he be in the film room and learn how to read defense??? Or will he be doing other things not related to football??? He need to learn the drop backs and practice the throws he had trouble throwing…its more mental then anything

      • goback2rfk - Dec 30, 2014 at 11:20 AM

        RG3 won the job back in 2012 when the Redskins spent the insane amount of draft picks that they spent on him.. They can not sit him down until they are positive he is not coming back to form like he was in his rookie year. I think they will give him another 3 seasons or so to prove himself. With way too much invested in him, I can not see how the Redskins will part with RG3, probably ever. If Robert can improve next year, he will remain the franchise guy for the rest of the decade.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM

          They should be positive of that by now. He still can’t read a defense, can’t make progressions clearly enough, can’t drop back from center properly, can’t feel pressure in the pocket, and doesn’t seem interested in trying to improve those things.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

          Saying “he doesn’t seem to be interested in trying to improve these things” is exactly the kind of useless armchair psychoanalysis that we get enough of in the press. You want o criticize Griffin’s game? Then do so objectively.

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:23 PM

          excuse me redskinsinrichmondva ….but kicking a football for an hour after practice by his lonesome proves to me he was not very interested…i would have to agree with Joe!

        • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:47 PM

          We have tons of reports on Bob wasting time showing off in the weight room instead of actually working on his game. He’s got more Subway commercials than wins the last 2 years. He’s shown zero progress on the field. I’m perfectly within reason to say he’s not interested in improving his fundamental grasp of the game as a pro.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:56 PM

          And Peyton Manning makes a lot of Papa John’s commercials. Proof he doesn’t seem to be interested in improving his playoff record.

          Of course it’s absurd. And that’s because you don’t hang around these QBs to know their work habits. Naming one instance or event out out their entire schedule doesn’t exactly qualify as proof.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:26 PM

          Also, Griffin’s work ethic has been praised by his teammates and coaches. He’s spends his spare time with his QB coach and receivers and plans to do more of that in the offseason. You can make the case that he could watch more film (as Shanahan stated in his recent interview), but there’s also a restriction on watching film with coaches (which would be beneficial for him) because of the new CBA.

          But that’s different from characterizing him as someone who “doesn’t seem interested” in improving his game, as you are doing.

    • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM

      In what world did any of that happen?

      Cousins had better YPA, YPC, and TD% numbers than Bob by a mile. Cousins does throw 2x the INTs that Bob does, but he also throws more than 3x the TDs that Bob does. It’s not even close between the two.

      • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:18 PM

        Cousins has only 3 more int’s than Bob

  9. goback2rfk - Dec 30, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    What no one is mentioning is how Gruden really saved RG3’s career by sitting him down. Remember Gruden called it “rebooting” RG3. When Robert was benched he must of learned a lesson because upon his return he did play better. He did not play great, just better than what he was.

    So in a way, had he never been pulled out and continued to play terrible for all those remaining games, we might be sitting here right now preparing to trade him off. Robert should be very thankful for Gruden saving his butt, and that is why Gruden is a quarterback specialist. Nice work Jay, now if only you could win more than 4 games.

    • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM

      Griffin was always better than those two games he played in whuch he slumped (Bucs and Niners). Same with Cousins; he had his case of the yips against the Giants and Titans.

      You don’t bench QBs after a couple of bad games. Lots of QBs have stuggled this season (and have played more games than Grifgin and Cousins) without being benched.

      • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:50 PM

        How many of those that struggled would end up throwing an incompletion after scrambling on a play with a clean pocket and 5 open receivers? Bob got benched because he showed absolutely no ability to do anything other than check down to a back/TE or throw a WR screen. He wasn’t just struggling, he was showing that he didn’t have any idea what was going on.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM

          Joe, cherry-picking a negative play from arguably Griffin’s crappiest game of his career does nothing for your argument. One could just as easily do the same with Kirk Cousins before he was benched (when he threw an interception into the hands of a Titans linebacker after staring him down from the pocket).

          Please stop being so ridiculously biased against Griffin. There’s sensible and productive critiques of Griffin’s game; and then there’s what you’re doing.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 31, 2014 at 12:09 AM

          “A” negative play? It’s not one you clueless buffoon. It’s literally what he does the vast majority of the time in the pocket. He has absolutely no clue what he’s looking at. No ability to read a defense, glacially slow making progressions, doesn’t throw until the receiver is already open, can’t master the simple act of footwork on his drop backs, etc. He’s a horrible QB from a fundamental perspective who still throws off the wrong foot most of the time.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 9:36 AM

          Joe, you also continue to regurgitate the same, tired rhetoric that critics have used for ONE of Griffin’s games (against the Bucs). It’s easy to claim he was a horrible QB based on that one game, and that’s because he played like one in that game. You didn’t hear these same criticisms in games in which he played more like an average NFL QB.

          Also, drop the namecalling. No need to get personal because you disagree.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 31, 2014 at 5:33 PM

          Ah, so film that’s been shown on play after play after play is “rhetoric” because it doesn’t slurp the pathetic excuse for a QB who has shown no progress in 3 years. Gotcha.

          Here’s the PFF breakdown of Bob in the game against Dallas in week 17 showing that he literally cannot do anything beyond check downs, screens, and the occasional lob downfield:

          Breakdown: His 336 receiving yards look good on the surface, but dive a little deeper and you’ll see that his receivers accumulated a massive 314 yards after the catch thanks to a litany of screens and dump offs. His only completions over 20 yards came on passes to DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon behind the line of scrimmage. RG3 rarely challenged the defense, and while it’s uncertain how much of that is on Griffin and how much is on the play calling/offensive system, friction between Griffin and the coaching staff could make that a moot point by next August.

          Signature Stat: Not counting his throw-aways, Griffin threw only one pass aimed over ten yards in the air, a deep shot to Santana Moss in double coverage.

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM

          Joe, “checkdowns, screens, and the occasional lob downfield” move the offense. That’s what the NFL passing attack has evolved into for the modern era: get the ball into the hands of athletic playmakers with quick reads, and have them rack up YAC. For the Dallas game you referenced, Griffin did just that. And that wasn’t even a great game by him, it was a bit below-average.

          But, his play in the Cowboys game and other games was still worlds better than his play against the Bucs and Niners, and that was what I argued in the OP. Against the Bucs and Niners, Griffin had 2.8 adjusted net yards per attempt. In his four other complete starts this season (Texans, Vikings, Eagles, and Cowboys), he was at 5.9 adjusted net yards per attempt (that number goes up more if you include the Giants game, but since it wasn’t a start I left it out for your convenience). The league average is 6.2. Griffin played more like an average QB in twice the number of starts and over twice the number of dropbacks, which is way more in line with his typical play than the few horrible games that you decide to cherry-pick and generalize.

  10. Scott - Dec 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    I have looked at the numbers and you couldn’t be MORE right ! He was performing at a very high level and was leading the league or in the top 10 in several categories including yards, completions, touchdowns, 1st down percentage, and points per game. But the sac fact is that special teams have up more yards and touchdowns than any other team in the league and so did the defense especially at the worst possible times. One other fact not published is the fumbles by his teammates at very crucial times in the red zone ie Alfred Morris, Loagan Paulsen, and I believe Andre Roberts. NOT to mention the incorrect rroutes run by his teammates, which caused a couple of his ints. Putting an undue amount of pressure on the rookie to get them out of a tough spot……but notice KIRK NEVER mentions any of the failures of his teammates and NEVER there anybody under the bus. He deserves a chance to run the offense for at LEAST 8 straight games of not an entire year. Reminds me of Peyton his first year…check the stats please and educate these so called fans and sports analysts lol 😜

  11. murphsman - Dec 30, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    First of all, Cousins knew the situation when he got drafted. He even admitted he didn’t expect to get a call from Washington once we drafted RGIII. Although for it’s worth, before talk surfaced about Washington trading up, the buzz was that the Redskins were planning on drafting Michigan State QB Kirk Cousins. So he was gonna end up on the roster either way.

  12. murphsman - Dec 30, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    Also, I have a few questions for you Rich. First of all, do you take Gruden’s comments that there will be a new Redskins’ staff next year to mean there will be a complete house cleaning? Secondly, any clue why Gruden would want to retain Haz? Lol. And most importantly, what do you think the chances are we fire Haz and manage to snag Rex Ryan?

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 30, 2014 at 4:53 PM

      No on the complete staff makeover. Just some changes. With Haz I think Jay can say thin talent to begin with and a bunch of injuries on top of that. And Rex has let it be known that he won’t be a DC in 2015. HC or TV for him.

      > > >

      • murphsman - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:11 PM

        Thank you for the quick response Rich. I didn’t know Rex said that. Then you have any idea of other possible dc candidates? And even if Gruden wants to keep Haz, any idea how Snyder can be so clueless to not realize that our biggest problem the past few years has been our defense under Haslett?

      • REDSKINS1 - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:55 PM

        Hey Rich correct me if I’m wrong, but Joe Gibbs 2.0, didn’t he have Greg Williams as Head Coach Defense. Is this something we can do with Rex? Or other defensive corrdinator that we can promote/steal from other teams like Bowles from Cardinal?

        • Rich Tandler - Dec 31, 2014 at 5:59 AM

          Rex Ryan is not coming here, not for any title, not for any amount of money. And neither is Todd Bowles, zero chance the Cards let him go.

  13. Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Cousins was, sadly, the best QB on the team this year even with the INTs. He’s got a chance to be a mid tier starter in the league if he’s not getting benched for a one year wonder who can’t play the position in a pro style offense. Give him the same # of reps as Bob and he’ll walk away with the job easily.

    • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 5:49 PM

      Well, since Kirk Cousins played in a more “pro-style” type of offense in college than Robert Griffin III, you would think that he’d easily secure the job. Especially over a QB who played his first season in such an offense (even with Shanahan last season, Griffin had more designed runs, bootlegs, and play-action plays than he did this season with Gruden). And yet Gruden benched Cousins anyway, and made him the 3rd QB on the roster.

      I want both of them to succeed. But this is a silly post — especially the conclusion.

  14. gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Here is the TD to TO ratio and you decide :)
    KC 10 TD’s 9 INT’s 2 FL
    RG 5 TD’s 6 INT’s 4 FL

    • Joe Greene - Dec 30, 2014 at 6:56 PM

      Here’s some more good stuff:

      KC 4.9 TD% 4.4INT% 3.8 Sack% 8.4 YPA 13.6 YPC
      Bob 1.6 TD% 2.8 INT% 13.4 Sack% 7.9 YPA 11.5 YPC

      Kirk does throw nearly twice the INTs, but throws more than 3x the TDs. Kirk has a better average per attempt and much better average per catch (hinting that he either throws the ball further down the field or leads receivers better allowing them to gain more yards after the catch). Kirk also takes far fewer sacks while Bob gets sacked at a criminally high rate and has never been below 7% sacks.

      The positives were that Bob completes more passes (checkdowns and screens are much easier) and does throw fewer INTs.

      • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:13 PM

        Of course Cousins had better numbers than Griffin this season. He also had better numbers than Colt McCoy.

        So why was he still benched by his own coach for McCoy? And made inactive when McCoy was named starter? And still has to “compete” for the starting job?

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:20 PM

          maybe ask our owner danny boy :)

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:21 PM

          “by his own coach” what did they have different coaches? lol

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:28 PM

          Did “Danny boy” bench Cousins?

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:51 PM

          well i said you need to ask our owner ? lol he may have!

        • redskinsinrichmondva - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:03 PM

          Well if you can prove that Synder was behind tge benching Cousins for McCoy, go for it. Meanwhile, you can show that Gruden was the one responsible for the benching right from his Titans post-game presser.

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:43 PM

          I could care less who benched who and why to be honest …i would just like to see my skins back to the winning ways :)

        • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:45 PM

          as for me stating DANNY BOY ..yes he is calling too many of the shots, IMO that’s a fact and that’s the reason this organization is where it is today!

  15. gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    I would take 5 more TDS with 1 more Turnover all year long. Also how many less SACKS? Sacks turn into 3 in outs most of the time!

    • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM

      lets also not forget the playbook as well, its much smaller with Bob under center.

      • gasngo14 - Dec 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

        But as long as Danny boy is calling the shots we will be a sub 500 team!

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