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Need to Know: More roster churn coming for 2015 Redskins?

Dec 26, 2014, 6:04 AM EDT


Here is what you need to know on this Friday, December 26, two days before the Washington Redskins host the Dallas Cowboys.

Three and out—More turnover coming?

1. It’s quite possible that Santana Moss will be playing in his last NFL game on Sunday. If it is his last game he has decided that he doesn’t want any fanfare. “When I leave this game, there’s not going to be a press conference,” he told Michael Phillips of the Richmond Times-Dispatch. “I’ll probably be somewhere at home and you’ll find out I’m gone.”

2. On Wednesday, rookie wide receiver Ryan Grant was participating in the second to the last practice of the season. The receivers were running patterns against one on one coverage from defensive backs. Grant was running his patterns hard, cutting sharply and using good technique. Looking at him, you would have thought you were looking at a starting receiver practicing for the playoffs. We will see how much of a role he has next year but he is determined to finish this year as best he can.

3. Pierre Garçon will end up being the team’s leading receiver for the second straight year but he won’t lead them in receiving yards as he has the last two season. DeSean Jackson has 12 fewer catches than Garçon but has almost 400 more yards than him. Garçon still has two years left on the free agent contract he signed in 2012. The chatter that he might not be back next year due to his $9.7 million salary cap number does not seems to be serious right now but then again who stays and goes won’t be discussed seriously at Redskins Park until Monday.

Out: The Redskins currently have 19 players on the roster who were not with the organization (active roster, practice squad or injured reserve) when Mike Shanahan was fired last December 30. That’s a turnover rate of about 38 percent, on the high side but not as dramatic as one might expect from a team that went 3-13 and changed coaches. It would not be surprising to see a turnover rate just as high or perhaps higher by the time we get to the start of the 2015 season. It’s not realistic to expect the same bunch of players to produce dramatically different results.


Today’s schedule: Practice 11:10; Jay Gruden news conference and player availability after practice approx. 12:30

Days until: Cowboys @ Redskins 2; 2015 NFL Draft 125; 2015 NFL season opening Sunday 261

If you have any questions about what’s going on at Redskins Park, hit me up in the comments. I’ll answer all questions as soon as I can get to them. And I’m always on Twitter @Rich_TandlerCSN.

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  1. charmerci - Dec 26, 2014 at 7:13 AM

    I was just reading about the Cards QB troubles. I think they’ll try to grab one of the Skins QB’s in the offseason.

    • nomaan78 - Dec 26, 2014 at 7:26 AM

      Its a deal!! Colt McCoy for Patrick Peterson.

      • charley42 - Dec 26, 2014 at 7:29 AM

        Sure! But I was thinking more like a 4th round pick – or just a silly high salary for Colt.

  2. Joe Greene - Dec 26, 2014 at 8:04 AM

    The more interesting part will be if there’s a real GM brought in (A.J. Smith does NOT count) and how much control Gruden has over upgrading the staff. If all we get is Smith plus the return of guys like Haslett, then player turnover is irrelevant.

    • bangkokben - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:04 AM

      There certainly is an argument for that. Then again we could hear that line that the coach needs his players and if we accepted it for Shanahan then…

  3. colmac69 - Dec 26, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    Dont think they any doubt there will b significant roster and coaching changes this close season…..

    Moss bn great player for skins….if it is his last game either with skins or nfl then he deserves a gd send off by fans….pity we didnt have more guys like him over yrs….winning td vs dallas b cool way to bow out!!!!!

    Garcon should b back…..maybe re-work contract but u nd guys like him in team

    • bangkokben - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:05 AM

      I agree. Send Moss deep from the slot and connect for one last bomb.

    • Joe Greene - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM

      Is it really that difficult to communicate like an actual adult?

    • bowlregard - Dec 27, 2014 at 1:04 PM

      Santana deserves a spot on the circle of honor, or whatever you call it.

  4. goback2rfk - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    I can not wait for black Monday. I want to see everyone gone as many players and coaches as possible. This team needs to be blown up and restarted again. Moss reminds me a lot of Roberts, made some nice plays but seemed to always drop that important ball.

    I am taking off work for black monday like I do every year. Haz should be 1st to go.

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:06 AM

      I do think that the odds are that Haslett will go but I’d be shocked if it happened Monday. Will take a few days of meetings, etc., to nail down the decision.

      • Joe Greene - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM

        That’s pathetic. There’s literally no reason to let Haslett even make it all the way to Monday. Until this organization learns to make the obvious decisions, quickly, it will continue to flounder. Proven losers like Haslett shouldn’t even get hired in the first place.

    • bangkokben - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM

      Good luck with that. I expect little change unless the Cowboys do to us like they did the Colts. And if you’re rooting for that, a big Chad Johnson’s: Child Please! to you.

      • goback2rfk - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:20 AM

        We have to get rid of the dead weight and get some players in here that can build us for the future. I am expecting a huge off season this year, multiple draft picks, free agents, trades. It should be the start of something great… New GM also?!

        • bangkokben - Dec 26, 2014 at 10:26 AM

          That’s fine and I’d welcome that too. But like Rich said, not on Monday.

        • Joe Greene - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM

          If that GM is A. J. Smith, then it’s not an improvement.

  5. nomaan78 - Dec 26, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    New FA Redskins players in 2015

    Devin McCourty FS from NE Patriots
    Lamar Houston OLB from Kansas City Chiefs
    Stevie Brown S from NYG

    Mike Iupati from SF 49ers
    Marshall Newhouse RT from CIN
    Jermaine Gresham TE from CIN
    Stefen Wisniewski C from Oakland Raiders

    Players that get cut to make Cap room and room on the roster

    Let Orakpo Walk and pay $$$ for Houston who is a proven sack monster
    Bye Ryan Clark and Brandon Meriweather enter McCourty and Stevie Brown
    Bye Tyler Polumbus and move Compton and Moses to depth and start Newhouse at RT
    Bye bye Niles Paul and enter Jermaine Gresham to start opposite Reed in 2 TE sets
    Move Montgmery to OG or backup C and enter Stefen Wisiniewski as starter

    Cut ties with Ryan Grant, Santana Moss, Stephen Bowen, E.J Biggers, Andre Roberts, Tracy Porter, and Chris Chester


    1st Amari Cooper WR Alabama
    2nd Marcus Peters CB Washington
    3rd Cody Prewitt FS OLE Miss
    4th Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE UCLA
    5th Ibraheim Campbell SS Nothwestern
    6th Sean Hickey OT Syracuse
    7th Jake Smith C Louisville

    This gives us Lamar Houston opposite Ryan Kerrigan and allow us to be a dangerous passrushing D add in Owamagbe Odighizuwa along with Murphy as you can never have too many passrushers

    McCourty Across from Stevie Brown at safety will be solid with depth of Prewitt and Phillip Thomas/Campbell

    CB’s Amerson, Breeland, Marcus Peters, Hall

    Newly built O-line with TW, Mike Iupati, Wisiniewski, Spencer Long and Marshall Newhouse

    WR will be Pierre Garcon, Desean Jackson, Amari Cooper, Leonard Hankerson, Ryan Grant

    TE’s Reed, Gresham, and Paulson

    Now that’s a solid Roster!!!!

    • abanig - Dec 26, 2014 at 12:46 PM

      Sorry but this Horrible!

      The Redskins should NOT draft a WR in round 1. Your draft hair doesn’t make sense to me. The Redskins biggest areas of need are OL, DL and safety or ILB and you have them taking a WR and corner?

      Why? The trenches needs addressed, not the skill positions!

      You have the Redskins cutting Ryan Grant and you have him in your final
      WR group, by any chance to you mean cut Andre Roberts?

      It’s Justin Houston – not Lamar! Lamar was the dumb ass defensive end who blew out his knee on a sack dance for Chicago.

      Stevie Brown his horrible, he was benched several times by the Giants this season. The Redskins need to sign McCourty and draft a FS. Phillip Thomas should start at SS.

      Newhouse isn’t really an upgrade. If the Redskins want an upgrade they should draft a RT but my guess is they stick with Compton who has proven he deserves a second year to lock down the job for the long term. Compton just shut down the eBay past rusher in the NFC East – Connor Barwin last Saturday night. There is no reason to cut Kory Lichtensteiger he’s been above average most of the year. Wisnewski is going to cost an arm and a leg for a center and I don’t think that’s a good financial move.

      • bowlregard - Dec 27, 2014 at 1:10 PM

        Their top pick is somewhere three to six, most likely. Maybe trade down for two late number ones, and take a guard with one of the picks.

    • Joe Greene - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM

      Wow. I’m not sure you actually understand things like:

      A) How the salary cap works
      B) How the draft works
      C) That our C is named Lichtensteiger, not Montgomery
      D) The guy from KC is Justin Houston
      E) Stefen Wisniewski is below average at best and a downgrade from Licht
      F) Marshall Newhouse is a bum that has started 7 games over the last 2 seasons and is a downgrade from Tom Compton
      G) Cutting Ryan Grant after his rookie season is arguably the dumbest part of your drivel

      This is one of the least informed, incoherent, devoid of reality diatribes I’ve ever seen.

      • ET - Dec 27, 2014 at 10:28 AM


        The part about Ryan Grant got me, too. Not to mention drafting a WR in the 1st round.

        Perhaps we’re being trolled by a Giants fan …

        • Joe Greene - Dec 27, 2014 at 2:13 PM

          Nah, it’s got to be Matt Millen.

    • Bob Brown - Dec 27, 2014 at 4:20 PM

      I saw cut Ryan Grant and lost interest.

  6. abanig - Dec 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    The Cardinals are going to draft a Qb. My guess is they take Brett Hudley with their first round pick

    • bowlregard - Dec 27, 2014 at 1:11 PM

      But they have Palmer to start, and Stanton to back up. If they take a QB it’s because they see a sleeper in a later round.

    • Joe Greene - Dec 27, 2014 at 2:20 PM

      They take a QB who struggles with taking too many sacks and reading plays too slowly in college in the 1st round? They’re going to do that for someone with a late 2nd to 3rd round grade from most sources?

  7. kenlinkins - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    Rich: IMO the “Bust Risk” doubles for non QB first round draft picks somewhere between picks 8 and 15. With the Redskins sitting with about the 6th pick and with so many key/money position being heavy in the top 100 guys for 2015 (OT, DE, OLB CB), if the Redskins trade down to about the 20th spot could they gain another 2nd & 3rd (draft value chart says 750 points to make up, 20th pick 2nd = 380 & 3rd = 170) but double the risk IMO. I just do not recall many teams making a trade like this unless they can push one pick into 2016. Would the Redskins have to trade with someone much closer to their pick (say 13th) so the value is a 1st for a 1st and 2nd in same year? Is it better to place all the risk in one higher pick if you are rebuilding or to try and gain as many top 100 picks (vs. as many picks as you can get your hands on) on your roster to improve the over all depth? We have seen both in the last few years. Which do you think works better? Draft like 2011 (4 top 100 guys & 12 total) or 2013 (2 top 100 guys and 7 total)? I do understand that the person making the picks is very important but in general which have you seen work best over the years I the NFL? Which had the better chance to help the Redskins?

    • kenlinkins - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:29 PM

      Yes, I understand it is Dallas week, but I just do not feel the Dallas hate this year yet. Maybe by Sunday! Happy Holidays to you and yours.

      • bowlregard - Dec 27, 2014 at 1:13 PM

        If there was a chance to knock the Boys out of the playoffs there might be more interest.

    • Joe Greene - Dec 27, 2014 at 1:29 AM

      The obvious trade down is Cleveland. They currently have the 13th and 17th picks thanks to Indy. That would be a slight overpay for the 5th pick and even more for the 6th. I’d be just fine with trading the 5th/6th for 13 and 17 while also sending our 3rd their way to balance the deal. If we could go OL/S/BPA in those first 40 picks, I’d be ecstatic.

  8. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Dec 26, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    The roster needs churning because it is bad.

    But what if the people doing the churning are just not capable of learning from their mistakes?
    ~ Archives

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