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Redskins 27, Eagles 24 thoughts and observations

Dec 20, 2014, 10:51 PM EDT

Jackson long catch vs Eagles

Some thoughts and observations on Redskins 27, Eagles 24:

—It looked like DeSean Jackson got a little extra fired up for this one. Well, of course he did because it was against his old team. But I wonder how he took Jay Gruden saying that he hasn’t seen as much as he wants to out of Jackson lately. That had to be another log on the fire for Jackson, who is fueled by emotion. And by his 4.2 speed and incredible talent for tracking the ball in the air.

—This morning I wrote that it would be very difficult for the Redskins to win this game if they gave up over 400 yards of offense to the Eagles. Philly racked up 495 and Washington still took the win. I could say I didn’t count on Eagles kicker Cody Parkey to miss two fairy short field goals but what happened happened.

—The last time that the Redskins won a game while giving up over 400 yards of offense was last November 3 against the Chargers. That also happened to be the last game started and finished by Robert Griffin III that the Redskins won.

—The Redskins got two takeaways today and scored six points. They got their first points of the day after Ryan Kerrigan sacked and stripped Mark Sanchez. Then they got their final points after the Bashaud Breeland interception.

—Phillip Thomas made his second start and seemed to be much more comfortable. He was credited with seven tackles. It’s too early to put him in as a 2015 starter even in pencil but he has a shot.

—After the Redskins picked up linebacker Trevardo Williams from the Chiefs practice squad, Gruden referred to him on the podium as “the guy from Kansas City”. He knows his name now after he got a second-quarter sack of Mark Sanchez after Trent Murphy went out with a broken hand. Rookie Jackson Jeffcoat also took some snaps in Murphy’s spot and he also got his first NFL sack.

—Robert Griffin III played well enough for the Redskins to win. His deep passes to Jackson were great throws and he appeared to be calm and settled in the pocket for most of the night. But he had the interception and the Redskins were just two of nine on third down. Not a great game but a step in the right direction.

  1. jim - Dec 20, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    Here is all I know, skins win when no one gives them a shot. With that being said we are going to be better so we should keep the games in perspective. ….we want improvement and win or lose this game today we played hard and had a spirit around us as a team. Picks and cap space should improve the roster and yes people Griff will be better for playing and not playing this year! Remember Steve Young suckered his first few years but for him he was able to be a 2nd stringer to Joe Montana and learned how to be a pocket passer…..the difference between rglll and Young, rglll has way more athletic ability than steve young ever had….so we will see a better rglll moving forward….why, because his last 2 games is evidence of what you would want to see how he responded to being benched and he did and looked better. Watch how fast all the sport reporters change their tone on rglll now……those bums don’t know diddly. ….just know how to pile on….and defiantly they never played football and understand what rglll had to learn and self correct to begin to get better. Nice win, thanks for the early Christmas gift Skins…..greatly appreciated. Enjoy all!

  2. bowlregard - Dec 20, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    For a Redskins’ fan living in the Philly area this was a very satisfying win.

  3. gasngo14 - Dec 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM

    what impressed me the most was only having 3 penalties for 15 yards

  4. sidepull - Dec 20, 2014 at 11:52 PM

    Tremendous win. Nice of Breeland to stick in the dagger when the eagles just knew they were going to kick a go ahead field goal. Liked this win better than the Dallas win,

  5. charmerci - Dec 21, 2014 at 4:33 AM

    I watched this game (too discouraged to watch recent ones) and in the 4th qtr, I was thinking even if they lost the game, it was definitely a step in the right direction.

    The only thing that I don’t like about it is that it makes it easier for the Cowbunks an easier shot at the playoffs. Argh.

    • polofourme - Dec 21, 2014 at 5:21 PM

      You know I get what you are saying….even if they don’t win if they put out a good effort that would be fine with you…that’s what our franchise has become…fans like us are just happy to see a good effort. I think there is something pretty bad about that but like I said, I agree. And lets get something straight we did not so much win the game as PHIL simply refused to win it…they did everything but lay on the ground and do nothing to make sure they lost this game. That to me is about the worst way to win…it gives the team a false sense of confidence that they did not earn…ask yourself this question, when is the last time you saw a team rack up nearly 500 yards of total offense and LOSE? Heres how, 110 yards in penalties (four personnel fouls of at least two were very close calls), two missed FGs one from the 37, and two turn overs. That’s a team that is basically self destructing and even with all the help that PHIL was giving WAS we barely won the game on a last second gimmie FG. Yes it goes down as a win…just like the game against SD did last year but its a very hollow win and nothing really to brag about…as for Griffin, Gruden stated he basically had to take the ball out of his hands and lean heavily on the run game, 29 rushing attempts and 23 pass attempts. Gruden had to significantly dumb down his play book because he knows Griffin cant play in a pocket…Grudens own words, I would like to take about 30 pocket pass’s a game but I cant because he doesn’t trust Griffin in the pocket. So lets not get to excited about a win against a team that was doing everything it could to lose yesterday and still nearly won.

      • hcicron - Dec 21, 2014 at 5:45 PM

        How you can say philly was doing everything to lose is beyond me. Do you say that for all teams every game they lose or just the ones who lose to the Redskins. Every team misses kicks or gets penalized. Part of the game. To discredit the performances of the Redskins yesterday is a mistake.

        • Skulb - Dec 22, 2014 at 1:21 AM

          Put it another way: without a 95 yard discrepancy in penalty yards and two laughable FGs by Philly this would have been loss 7 in a row. I agree with Polo, Philly beat themselves more than the Redskins did. 27 was the absolute most points you could have hoped for from this Redskins team and 24 about the absolute lowest you could have hoped for from Philly, who could easily have had 45 points or more. It`s a win, but one which proves that the Eagles can`t handle playoff pressure more than that the Redskins are suddenly a good team. They`re not.

  6. Stephfan - Dec 21, 2014 at 5:27 AM

    It’s funny how when skins win no is bashing our team! Where all the haters now? I know it’s been a tough season and I’ve held on. I haven’t bashed them all year.. Let’s go skins

    • Skulb - Dec 22, 2014 at 1:22 AM

      See you after the Dallas game! This was the one step forward and now come the traditional two steps back. I predict a blowout the wrong way in the last game.

  7. colmac69 - Dec 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    One swallow doesnt make a summer and a victory like last night can’t mask problems the team has……..

    However u have to give credit where credit due and team deserved that victory last night….defense gave up ton yrds but couple times in second half kept eagles to fg.s in redzone…..in games like that makes diff (kind probs we have had for most of season)….we cant play zone all yr so cant understand why we dont blitz constantly. ..yeh leaves corners man to man but I would rather take chance given up couple long tds if it means getting a few t/o esp against qb like sanchez who turns ball over under pressure….. (we cant get pressure with normal pass rush thus our defense makes every qb look like manning/brady)……

    Mentioned this on post last night……happened to skins twice last night…..personal fouls on defense within 15yrd endzone…ball only gets moved half distance….why not put ball on 1yrd line with first and goal…..offense gets benefit of personal foul and maybe discourage defenders from committing those type fouls……imo I don’t think its fair to apply half distance in those situations…..obviously if it happens on 2,, 3 maybe 4th dwn offense get auto 1st dwn…put ball at one u got gd chance of getting td…further out ball placed easier it is for def to defend….just a thought

  8. polofourme - Dec 21, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    I have always posted a win is a win no matter how it comes about. The fact is yesterday afternoon it was so much that WAS beat PHIL but PHIL beat PHIL…110 penalty yards, four personnel fouls, two turn overs, and two missed FGs….but a win is a win. But we certainly did not dominate PHIL, in fact PHIL rolled up nearly 500 yards of total O…..when you start to drill down on how the O played, it was not very impressive, Griffin had something like an 80 QB rating…a huge improvement for him but barely average…turn overs again an interception and a fumble. According to Jason Reid of the WP, Grudens game plan was simple, take the ball out of Griffins hand and force the running game to work. “Griffin isn’t great at the timing stuff. To put Griffin in the best position to succeed on Saturday, Gruden committed to the running game. The Redskins had 29 rushes, including 21 by Alfred Morris, and attempted only 23 passes.” Now this strategy worked agasint a team that was determined to beat itself but it cant be the long term strategy. Griffin at some point is going to have to start to grasp the basics of being a drop back pocket passer. This was Grudens attempt to cover up that fact. Take the ball out of Griffins hand is not IMO a ringing endorsement of a QB by his HC. Reid goes on to say, “Griffin finished with 220 yards passing and a so-so 81.8 passer rating. Again, though, that’s progress for a third-year player who often has appeared lost as Gruden has tried to transform him primarily into a pocket passer. Gruden would prefer to call at least 30 drop-back plays featuring the complex route combinations he enjoys devising. After a painful experience tutoring Griffin, Gruden knows that approach won’t work if Griffin remains the team’s starter.” Again what I have always posted is that all I want to see from Griffin is some kind of progress game in and game out…I saw a bit of that yesterday but Griffin is still very far away from being even an average and no one should be fooling themselves about that. But when Gruden has to scale down his play book by trying to call plays that will build Griffins confidence, that put the O behind the eight ball. AGAIN, a win is a win. But I saw this same kind of win last year against SD where SD basically gave the game away..a game WAS should never have won and IMO I think you can say the same thing about yesterdays effort…its a game they should not have won but PHIL just insisted on giving it away…how many times have seen a D give nearly five hundred yards of O and still win…PHIL basically beat themselves…I think we all saw that yesterday.

    • Bill - Dec 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM

      “when you start to drill down on how the O played, it was not very impressive, Griffin had something like an 80 QB rating…a huge improvement for him but barely average…turn overs again an interception and a fumble.”

      Correct me if I’m mistaken, but the fumble wasn’t a turnover. But if you go by QB rating, then yes; you’re right to say that Griffin was not impressive. I don’t agree, however, with the assessment that it was a “huge improvement for him”; before the game Griffin had a 89.8 QB rating for the season. His current QB rating is 88.7; the average QB rating for 2014 is 87.6.

      “Gruden would prefer to call at least 30 drop-back plays featuring the complex route combinations he enjoys devising. After a painful experience tutoring Griffin, Gruden knows that approach won’t work if Griffin remains the team’s starter.”

      There are many stats that people use to analyze QB play. They’re not equally effective, and pass attempts is near the bottom of the list; it is a nonfactor in winning football games. If Reid thinks that more passing plays are necessary in order for the Redskins to achieve success, then he’s incorrect.

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