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Need to Know: McCoy wants to return to Redskins, almost certainly will want a raise

Dec 17, 2014, 5:29 AM EDT

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Here is what you need to know on this Wednesday, December 17, three days before the Washington Redskins host the Philadelphia Eagles.

Three and out—

1. Yesterday many fans and professional journalists took a tweet that paraphrased comments that Jay Gruden made about Robert Griffin III and blew it up, saying that Gruden threw Griffin under the bus. I quickly transcribed the full quote from Gruden and posted it on Facebook. Anyone who read it realized that Gruden said nothing that could be taken as a shot at Griffin. Folks, don’t overreact to tweets, especially ones without quotation marks. Get the context before you react. I know its hard sometimes because we want instant analysis and then we want to be able to give out say instantly. But sometimes taking a deep breath can save you a lot of angst as a fan.

2. Gruden did not give an injury update today because he wasn’t required to. And it was hard to tell who was participating in the walkthrough because nobody was wearing a helmet. Trent Williams came in somewhat late in the proceedings, as the media was leaving. He’s obviously the most important injury to keep an eye on this week. If he can’t go it might not matter that Griffin is starting at quarterback.

3. If Brandon Meriweather can’t play, we’ll see Phillip Thomas make his third straight start at strong safety. Gruden liked what the saw out of the second-year player. “I thought Phillip made a couple strides toward the better,” he said. “It’s good to see him run around there and make some plays. He’s a very good tackler – sound tackler.”

Out: After the announcement that he has been placed on injured reserve, Colt McCoy was asked about his future with the Redskins. “I certainly feel like I’m a fit here,” McCoy said. “We’ll talk about that as we move forward.” Translation: The Redskins had better come up with some money. He made the veteran minimum of $730,000 this year and if he’s going to be in the mix to be the starter they are going to have to come up with more than that. He won’t be looking for huge money but most backups who could be starters are in the $2-$3 million per year range with some guaranteed money. In a league desperate for quarterbacks that’s the going rate. You’d have to think that the Redskins will be McCoy’s first choice but he won’t give a hometown discount to a place that has been “home” for barely a year.

Timeline

Today’s schedule: Practice 10:30; Jay Gruden and Jim Haslett news conferences, player availability after practice, approx. 12:30

Days until: Eagles @ Redskins 3; Cowboys @ Redskins 11; 2015 NFL Draft 135

If you have any questions about what’s going on at Redskins Park, hit me up in the comments. I’ll answer all questions as soon as I can get to them. And I’m always on Twitter @Rich_TandlerCSN.

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  1. Stephfan - Dec 17, 2014 at 6:22 AM

    Rich what do postion should we draft first

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 17, 2014 at 7:42 AM

      They need to draft a player, not a position. And we don’t know what players will be in the draft pool; another month to go before underclass have to declare. Plenty of time to hash that out between now and May.

    • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Dec 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM

      We need talent everywhere.

      More than a position, we need good players.
      ~

  2. sidepull - Dec 17, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    Dont care if he stays or goes. I just know he is not the answer a starter. He helped us beat Dallas and I will always be grateful to him for that.

  3. Jane - Dec 17, 2014 at 7:45 AM

    The hyperlink to your transcription of Gruden’s entire quote appears to be broken.

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 17, 2014 at 7:53 AM

      Link is fixed now, thanks.

  4. skinsgame - Dec 17, 2014 at 9:00 AM

    Yesterday I read somewhere that Gruden has been told he will be back next year. His assurance must’ve come from Bruce Allen and that would indicate there is no change coming at the GM level. I would like to have seen an article involving the team hiring away a proven scout team leader from another team to partner with Allen.

    • Rich Tandler - Dec 17, 2014 at 9:02 AM

      If there are going to be changes made in the player personnel area they are likely to happen after free agency and the draft. So I wouldn’t look for anything like that to happen for a while.

      > > >

  5. Scott talbert - Dec 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    Rich,I know it’s early but I like Rey olb or stanley rt! Thanks as always! I enjoy reading your stuff.

  6. goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    I would not re-sign Colt. What is the point. Cousins is still under contract, RG3 will be starting next year. Cousins as the number 2 guy. Why bring Colt back as a higher paid 3rd string guy? Cut him loose

    • Skulb - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:08 PM

      Wasn`t that the plan this year and last as well? You need a third stringer in DC, if for no other reason than the trend with Griffin to go out injured for long stretches. One of the reasons Colt was able to hop in and do quite well was that he had been with the team for a while. Sounds like a good idea to me to keep him around.

      • goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:51 PM

        We can pick up some one like Pat White as a 3rd stringer, Colt is not worth 3 mil a year

        • Skulb - Dec 17, 2014 at 9:44 PM

          That`s true enough I guess. I still keep going back the rather open question of the viability of the two other QBs though, since it`s been pretty depressing all round this year. Maybe one of the others isn`t worth x millions. The thing is that all three either have potential or have shown some promise, this season or previously. I have a feeling that whichever QBs leave Washington will start playing great, magically.

    • fwhalstead1 - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:45 PM

      Griffin may not even be on the roster let alone be the starter. Have you been watching games? Have you listened to Jays critique of Roberts play? How about Chris Cooleys take on Roberts play? Did you hear what Carl Banks said about his leadership and maytr syndrome? No Robert will not be starting for the Skins next year and it’s 50/50 that he’s even on the roster…

      • goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:53 PM

        Unless we take Jameis Winston or someone like than in the draft, than certainly RG3 will be starting next year. There is no one to replace him. You do not think they are going to sign Colt as the starter and can RG3 do you? If RG3 goes who is the qb going to be.. Rg3 is not going anywhere, it is going to be a repeat of this year next year guranteed, thats the redskins way

      • Bill - Dec 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

        You take your “analysis” from Carl Banks? The same guy who somehow took offense to Griffin being flipped on his side after a sack? I’m glad Banks mentioned Russell Wilson in his radio show, because that Wilson guy is such an juggernaut; he ALWAYS pops right back up after at hit or trip. Oh wait. http://mynorthwest.com/422/2387050/The-Pete-Carroll-Show-Russell-Wilson-got-banged-up http://www.seattlepi.com/news/slideshow/Game-photos-Seahawks-at-Rams-95850/photo-7021942.php?forceWeb=1
        Perhaps we should get our stopwatches out and time QBs after they take a sack; if they’re not back up after one second then they’re “drama queens”.

        You don’t even have to think Griffin is a good QB; you can analyze his play on the field and leave it at that. But these petty labels add nothing of value to the conversation.

    • nativetexan2012 - Dec 18, 2014 at 12:31 AM

      If Gruden is staying, I don’t think you can assume RG3 will be starting next year. Now if he lights it up in these next 2 games (how likely is that?), things might change. But right now it’s clear that Gruden considers McCoy the best of the 3 QB’s. In any case he’s not going to be the 3rd string guy. I don’t know why you believe that he would be. Cousins has been inactive most of the season since being pulled in the Titans game. If Griffin stays, I’m guessing that he and Cousins will battle for the #2 job with McCoy as the starter. It’s possible that either Griffin or Cousins will be traded if McCoy stays. Why would you cut loose the guy who has played best this season unless you had the opportunity to bring in someone appreciably better? Even then McCoy would still be the best choice as the back-up in my opinion.

    • bozothegreat - Dec 18, 2014 at 12:41 AM

      You are full of it, RG3 is a goner, watch him loose the next game. He is a HS QB with to much ego.
      Colt is the MAN, smart and a team player.

      • fwhalstead1 - Dec 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

        I’m not sure Colt is the man but this outright “Robert will be starting next year” is way out in left field…currently he is the WORST of the 3 QB’s on the roster running JAY’s offense…and Carl Banks was right…he calls way too much attention to himself and has so much work ahead of him and so much baggage it may be hard, if not impossible, for him to overcome….Again, that is why I said he may not even be on the roster next year….I honestly believe he’s got to say the hell with it and take chances down the field…he’s the ONLY QB on the roster where the plays are called for dumps and screens, or it may be that he checks down because he is not going through his progressions…honestly it will all depend on what some other team is willing to give up for him…I am in favor of COMPLKETELY blowing up this roster and NO ONE is safe from being traded. Hell, if I could get good value in return I’d package Griffin and Trent Williams up and move them both….Trent is good but he is on the back side of his career and the injuries are starting to pile up. Don’t know that I’d want to keep him past this year and definitely would not re-sign him when his contract comes up…

  7. ajbus1 - Dec 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Excellent post. Especially #1.

  8. colmac69 - Dec 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Comments/stories getting twisted happen all the time especially In sports where they always seem to b someone looking to put negative spin on it……just happens that its gruden/rgiii this time…..

    Watched rgiii non td few times and I still think it was harsh to not give it….the ball hardly moved in his hand as he crossed goalline…..not as if ball jumped out his hands before regaining possession of it…maybe rule that nds to b looked at and re- written…..quite a few rules imo nd to change……

  9. kenlinkins - Dec 17, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    IMO many Redskins fans are going to be disappointed when the Redskins keep Gruden, GM Allen, RG3, Cousins and McCoy in 2015. I think the ax will fall on both the DC and O-Line coach, plus the Redskins will hire a QB coach giving HC Gruden a easy out when asked about the poor development of RG3 in 2015 by saying “this was my big mistake and we have fixed it”. I also see the Redskins moving back in the draft if the S from Alabama is sill on the board as many teams have big problems at the position and his value will give the Redskins with an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick. With so many good DT/DE’s in the draft the Redskins could pick up 3 players in the top 50 which would really help in 2015. A QB coach can help force RG3 in the film room and to spend the extra time working on his drop backs by placing himself on RG3 hip in OTA’s, Mini Camp and training camp. If RG3 does have a problem in this area, it will become very clear to all very fast if he is missing as Cousins and McCoy take extra work with the WR’s early on. This will also help Cousins a lot. I know many believe that GM Allen can not pick players in the draft but by keeping him one more year it ties him to Gruden to the point that both can be let go after the 2015 season if they fail again to reach the play offs (which is what it will take to keep either for the 2016 season). I just hope the Redskins drop the core of players in 2015 who just do not get it and really change the culture at Redskins Park. Rich: Do you think that can be done with one more draft and Free Agent season?

    • goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 6:14 PM

      The way it looks now it should just be a repeat of this year next year. Hopefully, rg3 can have a nice off season. And maybe we can fix a few holes here and there on the roster, but I do not see any major improvements being made after this year. 7 and 9 next year would be great but more than likely I am thinking something like 5 and 11 next year.

  10. goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    I thought last season was really bad, but this one takes the cake. i can not remember a more boring a hopelessly stupid season as this one. QB carousel, locker room drama, stupid amateur reports, ex-redskins players blasting the team and the players. We have hit the peak of disfunction this year for sure, it can not get any worse than this. Atleast I hope.. Another long offseason coming up, it could not come soon enough.

    • Skulb - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:10 PM

      0-16 next season?

    • bangkokben - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:28 PM

      Could have a bunch of criminals on the team as well.

      • goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:34 PM

        We do have criminals, what about all those crooks that took the Redskins money and play like crap out on the field

  11. goback2rfk - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Can tomorrows Thursday night game be the worst ever in the history of Thursday night football?! I think so, has the possibility to have no ratings. Will they even air it I wonder?

    • bangkokben - Dec 17, 2014 at 8:35 PM

      In my mind the worst Thursday night game ever was the Giants demolishing our skins earlier this year. Just like the worst MNF was Vick’s Madden Bowl game. Both home games. Tomorrow’s crap fest couldn’t possibly be worst than those games.

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