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Draft Chatter: Buyer beware on Morgan Moses?

Apr 22, 2014, 11:55 AM EDT

Morgan-Moses

Offensive tackle Morgan Moses of Virginia has been a popular mock draft pick for the Redskins with the 34th overall pick. But should they steer clear if his name is on the board when they are on the clock?

The Dolphins are in desperate need of offensive linemen. Their offensive coordinator is Bill Lazor, who held the same job at Virginia from 2010-2012. His tenure covered the first three years of Moses’ Virginia career. So, is Lazor lobbying for the Dolphins to take his former tackle?

Apparently not. According to an article in the Palm Beach Post, the Dolphins are leaning towards Alabama tackle Cyrus Kouandjio over Moses with their first pick, 19th overall. One of the reasons is that, per a source, “the Dolphins are not as high on Moses with concerns over his work ethic and off-the-field issues”.

Any team looking at Moses would have to be concerned if he gets by the team that employs his former offensive coordinator, especially for those reasons. But it would be foolish to write off Moses as a candidate for the Redskins at No. 34.

For one thing, these “off-the-field issues” are very vague. Moses spent four years in Charlottesville and he was never arrested. He was on track to graduate with a degree in anthropology. Not that you can’t have some issues without getting arrested but it’s hard to see how there were many serious problem involving Moses when he managed to stay out of the newspapers and off of the police blotters.

Work ethic problems certainly are a concern but they are not unusual among young linemen and they are not incurable.

The bottom line is that just because a player who is not a good value for the team drafted with the 19th pick could well be a good value for the team picking 34th. The player the Redskins take there will have some flaws; otherwise, he wouldn’t still be there.

They will need to note the concerns about Moses and do their due diligence in investigating them. But they shouldn’t automatically remove him from their draft board just because Lazor may be giving him a less than ringing endorsement.

  1. ET - Apr 22, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    I was under the impression that Kouandjio’s stock has dropped somewhat because of durability / injury concerns. Is the 19th spot a realistic place for him to be tapped?

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 22, 2014 at 1:20 PM

      Dr. Andrews let all teams know that his knee was good to go so that’s not an issue. Even given that, 19th does seem a bit high for him but by that point most of the “expert” predictions are out the window anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Fins take Kouandjio at 19 and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him there at 34 when it’s the Redskins’ turn. Deep draft means a lot of players bunched up and teams waiting on positions because they can get a good player later on.

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  2. kenlinkins - Apr 22, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    You know the draft is near when you start reading all the “Fools Gold” story’s from the draft experts. This time of year is when all the little things that might have showed up on game film, combine results and work outs are “allowed” to leak out. Right now, the only thing that counts is what 32 GM’s believe on each guy listed of their draft board and that information will not leak out. Rich: Anyway to start a contest for us Redskins fans to try and pick just the first 3 Redskins picks? (maybe us a point system for each pick). Any one who gets more points than the Host would receive a tee shirt that said ” I beat Rich in the 2014 draft” (after a $20 donation to a Redskins charity). Rich: do you feel as I do that most Redskins fans will be stocked by the Redskins first pick (#34) in this year draft. IMO it will be someone most have not been writing about for the Redskins.

    • captblood3000 - Apr 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM

      I would have had two out of three last year: Amerson in the second round and Thomas but in the third round, not the fourth. The chances that I will ever do that well again are vanishingly small.

    • captblood3000 - Apr 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM

      OK, here goes: (2) Kyle Fuller, cb, Va Tech, (3) JuWuan James, OT, Tennessee, (4) Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas. How about 1 point for a correct player and round, half a point for correct player, wrong round, quarter for correct position and round but wrong player?

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 22, 2014 at 8:36 PM

      Unfortunately, a site owned by NBC Sports can’t run a simple contest with even a simple prize. Would have to get the legal department involved with rules, etc. I’ll set something up a few days before the draft but it will have to be for fun/pride.

  3. internetcareer - Apr 22, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    quick…mark that guy Moses off the list of potential draftees. I heard a rumor today!

  4. internetcareer - Apr 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    nobody here is Nostradamus. All we fans from a distance have to go on is what is REPORTED and what we have seen with our own eyes. If it were me, from what I have seen, the BIGGEST problem on the offensive line is CENTER and RIGHT GUARD.

    I think the Skins could get the BEST center in college or the BEST Guard in college because nobody is talking about drafting the INTERIOR of the offensive line in the 1st round. I would be satisfied if they got Moses but I would be happier if they trade back, picked up a 3rd round pick, and then took Marcus Martin (Center) in the 2nd and then with one of their 3rd round picks take Cyril Richardson from Baylor who was Griffins teammate. Bone up on that interior and then NEXT year when we get a #1 pick take a Right tackle, but for now, Polumbus is probably better than any rookie will be anyway.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 22, 2014 at 8:28 PM

      Although I don’t disagree with taking a guard or center there (you’ll like a Draft Chatter post I have coming up tomorrow or the next day), the fact that a given player may be the best guard in college football means nothing. The best guard in college football is not automatically the best player on your board if he’s still there. There could be 10 tackles who will be better pros and a few of them could still be on the board.

  5. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© - Apr 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    Seems to me that 19 is pretty high for both Cyrus Kouandjio and Morgan Moses.

    Thus, Bill Lazor’s comments might be a smokescreen designed to give the Dolphins a better shot at Moses in the 2nd round.
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    • Rich Tandler - Apr 22, 2014 at 8:22 PM

      They could be, although as I think I said in the post it’s right around that 20th pick where conventional wisdom goes out the window and 32 different draft boards lay the the thoughts and predictions of the Mel Kipers of the world to waste.

  6. KP - Apr 22, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    As a UVA fan, I would not draft Lazor. He did nothing to help the Cavs.

    • Rich Tandler - Apr 22, 2014 at 8:20 PM

      To be fair, it’s not like Lazor had a ton of talent to work with. Verica, Rocco, Metheny at QB not exactly a stud group.

      • KP - Apr 24, 2014 at 9:32 PM

        Both Metheny and Strauss threw for over 3000 yards last year.

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