Comments on: Cap-tastrophe? http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/ A blog for sophisticated Redskins fans Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:03:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rich Tandler http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-799 Rich Tandler Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:26:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-799 Under the current CBA, you can only spread out a signing bonus over four years instead of the maximum of seven so that and the 30% rule would, for the most part, preclude doing something like that.<br/><br/>That doesn't mean that there's not a way to get it done. The capologist at my site has come up with a way to make it happen, it's a free article at WarpathInsiders.com. Under the current CBA, you can only spread out a signing bonus over four years instead of the maximum of seven so that and the 30% rule would, for the most part, preclude doing something like that.

That doesn’t mean that there’s not a way to get it done. The capologist at my site has come up with a way to make it happen, it’s a free article at WarpathInsiders.com.

]]> By: Anonymous http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-798 Anonymous Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:11:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-798 rich, my comment was more along the lines of, sign them to a long term minimum contract, w/ a huge signing bonus to make up the shortfall (so that the guaranteed money is there). This would lower the cap hit, but give them the guaranteed money, this year. Then you can renogitiate in the uncapped year to make things sane again?<br/><br/>or would the end of the CBA cause signing bonus to not pro-rate over the length of the contract?<br/><br/>I can't believe there's not a way to correct things, it just has to be worthwhile to the player. rich, my comment was more along the lines of, sign them to a long term minimum contract, w/ a huge signing bonus to make up the shortfall (so that the guaranteed money is there). This would lower the cap hit, but give them the guaranteed money, this year. Then you can renogitiate in the uncapped year to make things sane again?

or would the end of the CBA cause signing bonus to not pro-rate over the length of the contract?

I can’t believe there’s not a way to correct things, it just has to be worthwhile to the player.

]]> By: Rich Tandler http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-797 Rich Tandler Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:58:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-797 Thanks for your comments, all. Sorry it's taken me a couple of days to get back to them.<br/><br/>The Redskins and Chiefs would have the toughest time getting under if there's no new CBA. About half the teams in the league are over, but most of them have some spare parts that they can cut (see the Jets and Ty Law) and they can get under. It's a bad thing for the NFL for other reasons, but only the Skins and the Chiefs need to get it done to help get under the cap.<br/><br/>Good points, Joe, but keep in mind that many of the veteran players will have to be replaced by rookies making the minimum. <br/><br/>And, no, you can't pack money into an uncapped '07. See the reference to the 30% rule in the article. Players aren't going to give up guaranteed money for a promise of riches next year. It's not a fiscally responsible thing to do. Thanks for your comments, all. Sorry it’s taken me a couple of days to get back to them.

The Redskins and Chiefs would have the toughest time getting under if there’s no new CBA. About half the teams in the league are over, but most of them have some spare parts that they can cut (see the Jets and Ty Law) and they can get under. It’s a bad thing for the NFL for other reasons, but only the Skins and the Chiefs need to get it done to help get under the cap.

Good points, Joe, but keep in mind that many of the veteran players will have to be replaced by rookies making the minimum.

And, no, you can’t pack money into an uncapped ‘07. See the reference to the 30% rule in the article. Players aren’t going to give up guaranteed money for a promise of riches next year. It’s not a fiscally responsible thing to do.

]]> By: Anonymous http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-796 Anonymous Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:32:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-796 conceptually, if there's no new CBA, so the redskins, would also have a problem, there would also be conceptually an uncapped year the following year.<br/><br/>So, couldn't the redskins simply restructure all the contracts, to the minimum with the conception that the following year, the sallaries could rise tremendously, perhaps throw a signing bonus into the equation to make it worthwhile to the player.<br/><br/>Now, restructering so many contracts, could be difficult, but would it horribly be so? Or if they restructure contracts, does that make the entire current signing bonus come due, thereby making the situation worse? conceptually, if there’s no new CBA, so the redskins, would also have a problem, there would also be conceptually an uncapped year the following year.

So, couldn’t the redskins simply restructure all the contracts, to the minimum with the conception that the following year, the sallaries could rise tremendously, perhaps throw a signing bonus into the equation to make it worthwhile to the player.

Now, restructering so many contracts, could be difficult, but would it horribly be so? Or if they restructure contracts, does that make the entire current signing bonus come due, thereby making the situation worse?

]]> By: Joe http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-795 Joe Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:30:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-795 I don't know if I'd call this "cap hell." It sounds like we might lose a lot of veteran players that we all like. It will be very disappointing to see those guys continue their careers elsewhere. However, if the intention is to get to an uncapped system, then 2006 will be the bitter pill that we have to swallow. Once 2007 rolls around Snyder will be able to spend any amount that is needed to keep the "Core Redskins." Clearly, an uncapped system benefits the Redskins.<br/><br/>Personally, I don't think Snyder's intention is to have an uncapped system. I think he just wants the Bengals and Bills to keep their hands out of his pockets. To accomplish that, Snyder has to show that he's willing to suffer through 2006 to get to an uncapped system. If the low revenue teams believe him, then hopefully they'll back off their demands for his local revenue.<br/><br/>I have to imagine that there will be some sort of compromise before March 3. But if it doesn't happen by then, and the Skins have to start cutting players, there will be no incentive to ever discuss revenue-sharing again. I don’t know if I’d call this “cap hell.” It sounds like we might lose a lot of veteran players that we all like. It will be very disappointing to see those guys continue their careers elsewhere. However, if the intention is to get to an uncapped system, then 2006 will be the bitter pill that we have to swallow. Once 2007 rolls around Snyder will be able to spend any amount that is needed to keep the “Core Redskins.” Clearly, an uncapped system benefits the Redskins.

Personally, I don’t think Snyder’s intention is to have an uncapped system. I think he just wants the Bengals and Bills to keep their hands out of his pockets. To accomplish that, Snyder has to show that he’s willing to suffer through 2006 to get to an uncapped system. If the low revenue teams believe him, then hopefully they’ll back off their demands for his local revenue.

I have to imagine that there will be some sort of compromise before March 3. But if it doesn’t happen by then, and the Skins have to start cutting players, there will be no incentive to ever discuss revenue-sharing again.

]]> By: Anonymous http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-794 Anonymous Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:50:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-794 No, 2007 would become an uncapped year. No, 2007 would become an uncapped year.

]]> By: Anonymous http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-793 Anonymous Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:21:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-793 If the CBA isn't extended, won't this become an uncapped year, and help the skins tremendously? If the CBA isn’t extended, won’t this become an uncapped year, and help the skins tremendously?

]]> By: Anonymous http://realredskins.com/2006/02/cap-tastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-792 Anonymous Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:25:00 +0000 http://realredskins.com/?p=293#comment-792 Rich,<br/>Any idea about how many other teams would potentially be hurt if the CBA isn't done? The Redskins can't be the only one. If there are enough teams that could get hammered by this problem, and it becomes enough of an issue, then perhaps NFL will recognize this as a bad thing and find some solution. Rich,
Any idea about how many other teams would potentially be hurt if the CBA isn’t done? The Redskins can’t be the only one. If there are enough teams that could get hammered by this problem, and it becomes enough of an issue, then perhaps NFL will recognize this as a bad thing and find some solution.

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